Windows Movie Maker in Windows 7

Article by PapaJohn (5,292 pts ) , published Oct 29, 2009

Windows Movie Maker has been in every version of Windows since Me... XP and Vista... but it's not in Windows 7. What does that mean to the community of Movie Maker users? Users can download and install Window Live Movie Maker or MM2.6, perhaps add Photo Story 3.. and continue making movies.

Installing Windows 7

The next version of Windows beyond Vista is Windows 7. The first beta version released to the public was in January 2009. A number of updates, along with the final release, were made after that. Windows 7 was formally released on October 22, 2009.... I and many others hosted release parties..

My installations went well. The first thing I did was confirm what I'd read about Windows Movie Maker not being included. Yup, it's not. Other than having Windows DVD Maker, it's a clean slate with regards to making movies.

The final Windows 7 release introduced two new issues for me: (1) the driver for the TV Tuner on my 5 year old HP desktop isn't Windows 7 compatible so I can't watch TV in a window. It had worked fine with each of the beta releases but was turned off by the final... (2) similarly, Photo Story 3 (PS3) had installed and worked on each beta release, but won't install on the final.

My attempts to install PS3 from a previously downloaded msi package result in a message saying it won't work on this version of Windows. Photo Story 3.1, the version included in the Microsoft Digital Image 2006 suite, installs and works fine on Windows 7 but Microsft no longer supports the Digital Image Suite 2006, and the compatibility options in Windows 7 are too difficult for the average user of Photo Story 3. I consider Vista the end of the road for Photo Story 3. Plan to use other slide show software when you move to Windows 7.

I had also read that Windows 7 automatically provides enhanced choices when you plug in a device. I was curious to see my choices when I connect my Sony Mini-DV camcorder (TRV80 model) with a firewire cable and turn it on in VCR mode. It was recognized, a driver was automatically installed, but no options were presented, not even one to import video clips from the camcorder. There wasn't any software to do anything with the camcorder.

It's an operating system with little to nothing on it for doing video work... where do we go from here?

Adding Movie Maker

Microsoft recommends the free download of the the latest Windows LIve Suite, which includes Windows LIve Movie Maker (WLMM) for Vista and Windows 7 (XP doesn't support WLMM). That gets you the newest version, but one considerably slimmed down in features from MM2.1 in XP or MM6 in Vista. It's good for quickly and easily making a video and uploading to YouTube, but not for anything close to the kinds of serious editing you can do with the classic versions of Movie Maker.

Experienced users will want to continue with what they've become accustomed to. It turns out the special Vista edition MM2.6 downloads, installs and works fine on Windows 7. It was produced by Microsoft to help those who were having problems with the version 6.0 in Vista. Although stripped of many features, it's pretty much aligned with the familiar MM2.1 of Windows XP. MM2.6 is the only version of Movie Maker that's a stand-alone download from Microsoft with an easy installation ... get it at:

Movie Maker 2.6

MM2.6 has the features to fully edit and produce a video, but it doesn't have the importing feature of MM2.1. For that, you can use the import wizard in the Windows Live Suite.

I've copied MM1 and MM2.1 from my XP system and MM6 from my Vista system, registered the DLLs and they are working fine. But I havn't yet added the thousands of extra 3rd party special effects and transitions that are on my XP and Vista computers.

Importing Video

In addition to the newest version of Movie Maker, the Windows Live Suite includes a video import wizard that works with a mini-DV or digital8 camcorder connected by firewire. MM1 and MM2.1 also work fine to capture video from my mini-DV camcorder, when connected by firewire.

Imported video clips can be browsed in the folders of the Windows LIve Photo Gallery or imported into the collections of the classic versions of Movie Maker.

Starting with no version of Movie Maker in Windows 7, I'm now running with four of them.

Making Video Clips from Still Pix

Photo Story 3 is a favorite of many when it comes to making those neat Ken Burns style video clips from high quality still pictures. First developed for XP, the app downloaded, installed and ran fine on the beta releases of Windows 7. Clips produced can be used in Windows Live Movie Maker or classic Movie Maker projects. But, as I noted above, the final Windows 7 release doesn't support installation of PS3.

The Bottom LIne

Movie Maker has been and still is a favorite video editing app for those learning about digital video editing. For advanced, pro-sumers, and professionals, other software is usually used instead of or with Movie Maker.

My overall experience with Windows 7 is positive. I have it on two computers, one desktop and one laptop, and I'm looking forward to continued learning about the tools I can use to make movies.

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Nov 19, 2009 5:09 PM
Hi Lisa,
I'm not aware of a download site to get MM6 in Windows 7... can you provide the URL?

If your files are still on the computer and accessible to you, it's a simple matter of copying or using them. I don't enough about your setup and upgrade process to comment about where they might be, or if they are still there.
Nov 19, 2009 4:43 PM
Lisa
Old files from MM in vista
I downloaded MM 6 but how do I get the files I had saved in the version that was on the computer before I upgraded to Windows 7??
Nov 19, 2009 1:15 PM
Response to Andy...
Hi there... I'm afraid you need more support than I can provide here in BrightHub. There are too many things you havn't included, and you need more people looking at your post and chipping in.

I suggest either the forums at http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/Forums/Default.aspx or http://social.answers.microsoft.com/

I'm at those forums, with other knowelgeable and helpful rather than by myself as I am here.

What you need to include is the version of Windows 7 you're using, the file types of your video clips, and if you've tried uninstalling the Live pack and reinstalling it from scratch.

Windows Live Movie Maker is supported on Windows 7 but not MM2.6.... for MM2.6 you'll get better support from moviemakers.net.

Good luck with it...
Nov 19, 2009 10:58 AM
Andy
movie maker problem wive live
since hav'ng windows 7 i just connont get movie maker to run propely,

i downloaded movie maker 2.6, i can edit by putting pictures and music on but will not edit with my movie clips, i will import my movie clips but when i click play, no picture or sound will come up in the preview box.

another one tried was un-installing it and downloading windows live, all the other programs will open apart from movie maker. my computer does'nt even want to install windows live now either......please help?????
Nov 16, 2009 1:57 PM
Steve
Thanks Papa - will try it.
Thanks Papa John - I'll give it a try.
Nov 16, 2009 1:46 PM
Response to Steve about adding and syncing audio
Hi Steve,

Looks like you to jump through hoops to do it with Windows Live Movie Maker. In classic versions of Movie Maker, I zoom into the audio track to see the wave patterns to do syncing... with nudging tools to jog the audio clip a little left or right. We don't have those features in WLMM.

As MM2.6 downloads and installs on Windows 7, it's the easiest hoop to jump thru to get the feature.
Nov 16, 2009 1:29 PM
Steve
Overlay audio to video?
I have a simple need - I want to be able to add an audio track to an existing .avi (and sync the two), and hopefully not lose video quality in the process, with my final result being a not-too-big video file with audio.

Can the Win7-LiveMovieMaker program do that without me jumping through hoops?

Thanks.
Nov 12, 2009 2:22 AM
Response to Carol...
No, there isn't a download of Movie Maker 6, the version that came with vista. To get it to Windows 7 you need to copy it from a Vista system and register the DLLs.... which is a techie enough thing to do that you should find some local help.
Nov 11, 2009 5:17 PM
Carol F.
Windows Movie Maker
Hi...First off let me say one thing, I am, unlike the others who have posted comments, not computer suavy at all! I had movie maker on my old computer with vista, I learned how to make my way around it and understand it. I recently bought new computer, has windows 7...has windows live movie maker...I do not understand nor have the patience to figure it out, it is very different to me. what I want to know is, can I download from interent the windows movie maker that came with vista and will it work correctly with windows 7. Also if I can and it will work is there anything I would need to do other than go to website and download it? Please forgive my ignorance.
Nov 10, 2009 1:08 AM
Capture from camcorder using USB
Movie Maker in XP, Vista, and now Windows 7 was made to work well with DV camcorders connected by firewire. The help file of MM6 says it doesn't do other than firewire and suggests using other software for capture by USB.

In your case, using another computer to copy the MM6 files from.

Camcorders connected by USB usually come with software you can use to do the capturing. I'd try that first. Beyond that, depending on the camcorder brand and model, connecting it and simply copying the files using explorer might do it.
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