Windows Movie Maker in Windows 7

Article by PapaJohn (5,292 pts ) , published Oct 29, 2009

Windows Movie Maker has been in every version of Windows since Me... XP and Vista... but it's not in Windows 7. What does that mean to the community of Movie Maker users? Users can download and install Window Live Movie Maker or MM2.6, perhaps add Photo Story 3.. and continue making movies.

Installing Windows 7

The next version of Windows beyond Vista is Windows 7. The first beta version released to the public was in January 2009. A number of updates, along with the final release, were made after that. Windows 7 was formally released on October 22, 2009.... I and many others hosted release parties..

My installations went well. The first thing I did was confirm what I'd read about Windows Movie Maker not being included. Yup, it's not. Other than having Windows DVD Maker, it's a clean slate with regards to making movies.

The final Windows 7 release introduced two new issues for me: (1) the driver for the TV Tuner on my 5 year old HP desktop isn't Windows 7 compatible so I can't watch TV in a window. It had worked fine with each of the beta releases but was turned off by the final... (2) similarly, Photo Story 3 (PS3) had installed and worked on each beta release, but won't install on the final.

My attempts to install PS3 from a previously downloaded msi package result in a message saying it won't work on this version of Windows. Photo Story 3.1, the version included in the Microsoft Digital Image 2006 suite, installs and works fine on Windows 7 but Microsft no longer supports the Digital Image Suite 2006, and the compatibility options in Windows 7 are too difficult for the average user of Photo Story 3. I consider Vista the end of the road for Photo Story 3. Plan to use other slide show software when you move to Windows 7.

I had also read that Windows 7 automatically provides enhanced choices when you plug in a device. I was curious to see my choices when I connect my Sony Mini-DV camcorder (TRV80 model) with a firewire cable and turn it on in VCR mode. It was recognized, a driver was automatically installed, but no options were presented, not even one to import video clips from the camcorder. There wasn't any software to do anything with the camcorder.

It's an operating system with little to nothing on it for doing video work... where do we go from here?

Adding Movie Maker

Microsoft recommends the free download of the the latest Windows LIve Suite, which includes Windows LIve Movie Maker (WLMM) for Vista and Windows 7 (XP doesn't support WLMM). That gets you the newest version, but one considerably slimmed down in features from MM2.1 in XP or MM6 in Vista. It's good for quickly and easily making a video and uploading to YouTube, but not for anything close to the kinds of serious editing you can do with the classic versions of Movie Maker.

Experienced users will want to continue with what they've become accustomed to. It turns out the special Vista edition MM2.6 downloads, installs and works fine on Windows 7. It was produced by Microsoft to help those who were having problems with the version 6.0 in Vista. Although stripped of many features, it's pretty much aligned with the familiar MM2.1 of Windows XP. MM2.6 is the only version of Movie Maker that's a stand-alone download from Microsoft with an easy installation ... get it at:

Movie Maker 2.6

MM2.6 has the features to fully edit and produce a video, but it doesn't have the importing feature of MM2.1. For that, you can use the import wizard in the Windows Live Suite.

I've copied MM1 and MM2.1 from my XP system and MM6 from my Vista system, registered the DLLs and they are working fine. But I havn't yet added the thousands of extra 3rd party special effects and transitions that are on my XP and Vista computers.

Importing Video

In addition to the newest version of Movie Maker, the Windows Live Suite includes a video import wizard that works with a mini-DV or digital8 camcorder connected by firewire. MM1 and MM2.1 also work fine to capture video from my mini-DV camcorder, when connected by firewire.

Imported video clips can be browsed in the folders of the Windows LIve Photo Gallery or imported into the collections of the classic versions of Movie Maker.

Starting with no version of Movie Maker in Windows 7, I'm now running with four of them.

Making Video Clips from Still Pix

Photo Story 3 is a favorite of many when it comes to making those neat Ken Burns style video clips from high quality still pictures. First developed for XP, the app downloaded, installed and ran fine on the beta releases of Windows 7. Clips produced can be used in Windows Live Movie Maker or classic Movie Maker projects. But, as I noted above, the final Windows 7 release doesn't support installation of PS3.

The Bottom LIne

Movie Maker has been and still is a favorite video editing app for those learning about digital video editing. For advanced, pro-sumers, and professionals, other software is usually used instead of or with Movie Maker.

My overall experience with Windows 7 is positive. I have it on two computers, one desktop and one laptop, and I'm looking forward to continued learning about the tools I can use to make movies.

47 Comments

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Nov 4, 2009 4:14 PM
Tangmeister
Windows Seven has removed Autoplay...
It's why you didnt' get the extra options. It's because of malware that impersonates options like Windows Explorer and removes the authentic ones.
Nov 4, 2009 2:40 PM
Response to Mike...
What happened is normal when you upgrade from Vista to Windows 7, which doesn't come with Movie Maker..

Movie Maker 2.6 wasn't an upgrade from MM6 in Vista. It was a work-around for those who had problems running MM6. It was a stripped down version of MM2.1 from XP, which would make it not a forward compatibility issue..

Nov 4, 2009 1:16 PM
Mike
Can't Load Project Files
I upgraded Vista Home Premium to Windows 7 and then installed Movie Maker 2.6. Now I get an error message from MM2.6 saying that my projects were created with a version of Movie Maker that's not supported. None of them will open. What happened? Has anyone else had this problem? There are no other versions of Movie Maker (such as Version 6) available for download. Why aren't MM project files forward compatible?
Nov 2, 2009 12:27 PM
Installing Windows 7
One clue for me is that a clean/reformat drive option ends up taking about 20 mintues to install Win7. The 'upgrade' that maintained my files and settings (including Photo Story 3) took about 4 hours.
Nov 2, 2009 12:13 PM
Don Stouder
Win 7 Installation Terminology Confusion
I definitely will not uninstall PS 3. But I'm confused. I have forgotten the choices I had, but apparewntly there were three, one complete/clean, one where you retain all of your programs as installed, and then one that is somewhere in between - the one I chose.

All I know is that when I finished ther were no applications installed, except those that were part of Win 7.

At the time, I thjought I had chosen the most complete and fresh update I could. I guess I btter review the choices I was given for future reference.

Nov 2, 2009 11:53 AM
Don S...
Hi Don,

Sounds like you did an upgrade, not a clean wipe-the-drive-clean type of installation. I did that also on my Toshiba Vista laptop and Photo Story 3 continued to work fine afterwards.

But, as my clean Windows 7 installs wouldn't run the installation app of PS3, I did an uninstall of PS3 on my Toshiba, followed by an attempted reinstall. If you really want to keep PS3 in Windows 7, don't uninstall it.
Nov 2, 2009 11:29 AM
Don Stouder
PS 3 on Windows 7
Hi Papajohn,

I read your comments regarding not being able to install Photo Story 3 in Windows 7 Ultimate, and I was disappointed. However, before reading your comments, I had already installed it on my Win 7 Home Premium, and it seems to work fine.

I did a clean install from Vista Home Premium to Windows 7 Home Premium. As expected, I had to reinstall all of my applications, including PS 3. I do not know what version I have, but I did not get it from Microsoft Digital Image 2006 suite, as far as I know. The file showed that the content was created on 11-11-2004, I believe.

I guess there has to be a an explanation for this, but what? As I write this, I'm beginning to wonder how clean my install was. What I meanis that there was a folder called Windows.old that was generated in case I need to go back to Vista. I expected at the time that my clean install would be like essentially reformatting the hard drive.

But, the fact remains PS 3 is running on my Windows 7 machine. ?????

Don S.
Oct 28, 2009 9:09 AM
David Daniels
Thanks!
I was wondering what happened to Movie Maker and spent 20 minutes looking through the program menu for this. Finally did a Google search and found your blog. Answered my question.
Oct 26, 2009 1:11 PM
Photo Story 3
Hi Felix... I'm still studying PS3 on Windows 7. It worked fine thru all the beta versions but the final release of Win 7 doesn't let it install.

I upgraded a Vista laptop that had it, and it continued to work after the upgrade, but then I lost it when I did an uninstall of PS3 followed by a reinstall, which it wouldn't do.
Oct 26, 2009 1:00 PM
felix pfaeffle
Photostory3
Will PS3 run on Windows 7 ???
I am about to buy a laptop dedicated only to PS3 and Moviemaker projects.
Thanks, felix
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