Windows Movie Maker in Windows 7

Article by PapaJohn (5,509 pts )
Edited & published by Rhonda Callow (10,566 pts ) on Feb 5, 2010

Windows Movie Maker has been in every version of Windows since Me... XP and Vista... but it's not in Windows 7. What does that mean to the community of Movie Maker users? Users can download and install Window Live Movie Maker or MM2.6, perhaps add Photo Story 3.. and continue making movies.

Installing Windows 7

The next version of Windows beyond Vista is Windows 7. The first beta version released to the public was in January 2009. A number of updates, along with the final release, were made after that. Windows 7 was formally released on October 22, 2009.... I and many others hosted release parties.

My installations went well. The first thing I did was confirm what I'd read about Windows Movie Maker not being included. Yup, it's not. Other than having Windows DVD Maker, it's a clean slate with regards to making movies.

The final Windows 7 release introduced two new issues for me: (1) the driver for the TV Tuner on my 5 year old HP desktop isn't Windows 7 compatible so I can't watch TV in a window. It had worked fine with each of the beta releases but was turned off by the final... (2) similarly, Photo Story 3 (PS3) had installed and worked on each beta release, but won't install on the final.

My attempts to install PS3 from a previously downloaded msi package result in a message saying it won't work on this version of Windows. Photo Story 3.1, the version included in the Microsoft Digital Image 2006 suite, installs and works fine on Windows 7 but Microsoft no longer supports the Digital Image Suite 2006, and the compatibility options in Windows 7 are too difficult for the average user of Photo Story 3. I consider Vista the end of the road for Photo Story 3. Some users report successfully installing and using PS3, but others don't.

I had also read that Windows 7 automatically provides enhanced choices when you plug in a device. I was curious to see my choices when I connect my Sony Mini-DV camcorder (TRV80 model) with a firewire cable and turn it on in VCR mode. It was recognized, a driver was automatically installed, but no options were presented, not even one to import video clips from the camcorder. There wasn't any software to do anything with the camcorder.

It's an operating system with little to nothing on it for doing video work... where do we go from here?

Adding Movie Maker

Microsoft recommends the free download of the latest Windows Live Suite, which includes Windows Live Movie Maker (WLMM) for Vista and Windows 7 (XP doesn't support WLMM). That gets you the newest version, but one considerably slimmed down in features from MM2.1 in XP or MM6 in Vista. It's good for quickly and easily making a video and uploading to YouTube, but not for anything close to the kinds of serious editing you can do with the classic versions of Movie Maker.

Experienced users will want to continue with what they've become accustomed to. It turns out the special Vista edition MM2.6 downloads, installs and works fine on Windows 7. It was produced by Microsoft to help those who were having problems with the version 6.0 in Vista. Although stripped of many features, it's pretty much aligned with the familiar MM2.1 of Windows XP. MM2.6 is the only version of Movie Maker that's a stand-alone download from Microsoft with an easy installation ... get it at:

Movie Maker 2.6

MM2.6 has the features to fully edit and produce a video, but it doesn't have the importing feature of MM2.1. For that, you can use the import wizard in the Windows Live Suite.

It turns out MM2.6 also resolves some Issues you might experience with MM2.1 in Windows 7. It's not surprising as they are very similar with one made for XP and the other for Vista. The Windows 7 system is closer to Vista.

I've copied MM1 and MM2.1 from my XP system and MM6 from my Vista system, registered the DLLs and they are working fine. But I haven't yet added the thousands of extra 3rd party special effects and transitions that are on my XP and Vista computers.

Importing Video

In addition to the newest version of Movie Maker, the Windows Live Suite includes a video import wizard that works with a mini-DV or digital8 camcorder connected by firewire. MM1 and MM2.1 also work fine to capture video from my mini-DV camcorder, when connected by firewire.

Imported video clips can be browsed in the folders of the Windows Live Photo Gallery or imported into the collections of the classic versions of Movie Maker.

Starting with no version of Movie Maker in Windows 7, I'm now running with five of them.

Making Video Clips from Still Pix

Photo Story 3 is a favorite of many when it comes to making those neat Ken Burns style video clips from high quality still pictures. First developed for XP, the app downloaded, installed and ran fine on the beta releases of Windows 7. Clips produced can be used in Windows Live Movie Maker or classic Movie Maker projects. But, as I noted above, the final Windows 7 release doesn't support installation of PS3 on everyone's computer.

The Bottom Line

Movie Maker has been and still is a favorite video editing app for those learning about digital video editing. For advanced, pro-sumers, and professionals, other software is usually used instead of or with Movie Maker.

My overall experience with Windows 7 is positive. I have it on two 32 bit computers (a laptop and a desktop) and a new 64 bit desktop. I'm enjoying the complexities involved in learning about the tools in my Windows 7 toolbox I can use to make movies.

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Feb 8, 2010 10:28 PM
RE: Windows Movie Maker in Windows 7
Hi Karl,

I wouldn't want to guess without knowing more... as this isn't meant as a place for tech support I suggest posting your case to the forums at
http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/Forums/

Include what version of Windows you're using... I'd guess Win 7 but maybe it's Vista.... and the kind(s) of source files, and your selected quality setting when saving the movie.
Feb 8, 2010 9:54 PM
Karl Marx
pvmills
I have a problem.
It's Ok, While importing and viewing videos inside Movie Maker 2.6.

But when I save the video, The quality goes like all bad.
I don't know what it is, But it never happened when I used Xp's Movie Maker 2.1.

Could it be a problem with the codecs?
Feb 8, 2010 3:16 PM
Margaret.... Movie Maker saves 2 different files..
... the project file is used only by Movie Maker and works only on the computer you made it... it's the recipe for the movie

.... the movie itself (wmv format) is the finished video you distribute. It plays on all versions of Windows and even on Apples.
Feb 8, 2010 3:03 PM
Margaret
sending movie files to other people
I edited a video I had made and was pleased with the results. I then sent it to two people who do not have windows 7 or movie maker and neither or them could open it because it was in a format there computers don't recognize or something. I also burned it to a disk but that didn't work either. Any ideas?
Feb 8, 2010 12:20 PM
Jeff...
WMVCORE.DLL should be in your c:\Windows\System32 folder

I have a couple notes on the Problem Solving > Software Modules page of my website - www.papajohn.org - that say it was resolved by a system restore in one case and reinstalling WMP in another.

For help with it, I suggest the forums at
http://www.windowsmoviemakers.net/Forums/
Feb 8, 2010 10:02 AM
Jeff
WMVCore.DLL is missing....
I tried downloading the 2.6 version for W7 though your recommended process, when I try to open the program im being told
WMVCore.DLL
is missing from my computor and to reistall to fix the problem, but to no avail. Any suggestions to getting an operable version?
Feb 7, 2010 12:12 PM
Don, yes you're forgetting...
.... that's how it works in MM2.1 in XP. It was changed to do what you expect in MM6 in Vista.
Feb 7, 2010 10:51 AM
Don Stouder
Importing Video Clips MM 2.6 in Win 7 Problem
I'm not sure if this is the best place to add this question, but I'm having a strange problem with MM 2.6 on Win 7.

I make a new collection and then click on Import Video to import a series of video clips into the Collection as I've with other versions/op systems.

But instead of the importing the clips into the open Collection, each clip is a new Collection itself.

Am I forgetting something obvious or what?

TIA
Feb 6, 2010 1:39 PM
Susy, see the Setup Movie Maker...
section of my website - www.papajohn.org
Feb 6, 2010 1:25 PM
Susy
Another One?
The Photo Story 3 didn't work. Do you know some other movie makers that are free to download on windows 7? If you do can you please give me the url? Thank you.
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