What is a Supercritical Power Plant?

Written by:  • Edited by: Lamar Stonecypher
Updated Jul 3, 2010
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Modern thermal power plants operate at very high pressures greater than the Critical pressure of steam. This article explains the concept of Supercritical power plants.

"Steam is no stronger now than it was a hundred years ago, but it is put to better use.“ - Ralph Waldo Emerson

To increase the efficiency of steam power plants the basic method is to improve the thermal efficiency by increasing the operating pressure. To understand what a Supercritical power plant is you have to understand the basics of steam generation.

What happens when you heat water at normal atmospheric pressure?

There are three stages.

  • As you go on heating the water, the temperature of water increases till it reaches 100 deg C. This is the Sensible Heat addition.
  • Further heating does not increase the temperature; instead small bubbles of steam start to form. The temperature remains constant at 100 deg C till all the water becomes steam. The water absorbs the heat without temperature change for conversion to steam. At atmospheric pressure the Latent Heat of vapourisation is 2256 kJ/kg.
  • Further heating called superheating will increase the temperature of the steam. How high one can go depends on the withstanding capacity of the vessel.

What happens when the water is at a higher pressure, say, at 100 bar? Then the boiling takes place at 311 deg C and the latent heat of vaporisation is 1318 kJ/kg.

If the water pressure is 200 bar then the boiling takes place at 366 deg C and the latent heat of vaporisation is 584 kJ/kg.

As the pressure increases the boiling temperature increases and the latent heat of vaporisation decreases.

A further increase in pressure and temperature leads us to a point at which the latent heat of vaporisation is zero, or there is no boiling. Water directly becomes steam. This is the Critical Pressure and the Critical Temperature. For steam this occurs at 374 deg C and 220.6 bar.

Conventional steam power plants operate at a steam pressures in the range of 170 bar. These are Subcritical power plants. The new generation of power plants operate at pressures higher than the critical pressure. These are Supercritical power plants. The operating pressures are in the range of 230 to 265 bar.

The efficiency of the Rankine cycle depends on the pressure at which it operates. Higher pressure and temperature increase the efficiency of the thermal cycle and power plant. This is the reason for operating at higher steam pressures.

Ultra Supercritical Power Plants

In the quest for higher efficiency the trend is to go for still higher operating pressures. The next generation of power plants will operate with steam Pressures in the range of 300 bar. These are the Ultra Super Critical Power plants. Ultra Supercritical Units operate at temperatures of 615 to 630 deg C.


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Vinod Mankar Dec 20, 2011 1:20 AM
RE: What is a Supercritical Power Plant?
thanks for that realy knowledgeable information...........
Manikandanchip Dec 18, 2011 3:38 PM
RE: What is a Supercritical Power Plant?
i like this content very much................thanks
Aymankamal Nov 5, 2011 8:59 PM
RE: What is a Supercritical Power Plant?
what is action if silics cotent increase or condenser tube leak ocured in supercritical boiler?
mohnish Aug 24, 2011 12:14 AM
Advantages of Supercritical Boilers
Respected Sir.
1)Could you pleas mention the advantage of a supercritical boilers over sub-critical boilers?

2)Can a supercritical boiler be used for low MW generation stations? Why?
RAVINDRA KUMAR NAYAK Jul 3, 2011 8:34 AM
REDUCING OF VIBRATION IN TURBINE
I am working in a 25 MW captive power plant, There I encountered with a problem of viberation of turbine. which is some how 20-25% more than the normal value. What steps should I take to overcome this vibration problem
pranabjyoti Mar 27, 2011 11:28 AM
Can low pressure, high temperature steam be more effective by use of convergent nozzle?
Let imagine that we have steam of sufficiently high temperature but at comparatively lower pressure in Boiler. Lets assume that we have steam at around 250C, but at 12 bars of pressure. Now to rotate a conventional turbine used in thermal power plants, can we use a nozzle so that the steam will come out with more velocity and capable to rotating a turbine that can be rotated with higher pressure?
Tagfan Mar 22, 2011 7:22 AM
Supercritical Boilers
What are basic reasons for switching from sub critical to SCBs. How extra cost incurred in SCB is justified w.r.t. Subcritical boilers.
Regards
johnzactruba Mar 21, 2011 8:11 PM
reply tagfan
Middle east has oil at cheaper rates. So it is econmical to go in for 600 MW SCB which gives you higher thermal efficiency maybe around 48 % +.
tagfan Mar 21, 2011 12:55 AM
Basis of Decision Making to opt for HFO fired Supercritical boiler from subcritical boiler
hello tehre,

Can you please give me the detailed elaboration that what are the basis of decision making for opting HFO SCB of 600MWs and 800 MWs in the middle east market especially in KSA.
Thanks
johnzactruba Feb 24, 2011 9:13 AM
reply vijayarangan
The boiler is designed for a particular O2 at boiler outlet. It is possible to reduce this O2 if the unburnts do not increase and the steam temperatures are within range. Even with the correct o2 if the the unburnts are high it means there is combustion problem. Maybe the air distribution and mixing is not correct, in pf boilers maybe the coal fineness not correct. There are many other erasons. This hasto attacked to reduce the unburnts in the ash.
vijayarangan Feb 23, 2011 2:13 AM
Low load-optimisation
Dear sir
I feel , both in PF Boiler and in AFBC Boiler the O2 (in exhaust flue gas)after economizer is always higher. it not able to me to control the O2 with in the limit .I have to maintain O2 and to reduce the unburned. May you suggest me what the step i have take.
AlAhmadi, Sami Feb 19, 2011 4:36 AM
Limitations
Thanks a lot for your clear and valuable info. In connection to the same subject, please advice me about the limitations related to the Main Steam Temp, Slagging and Fouling problem by firing Heavey Fuel Oil in SC boiler.

Regards;
Narendra Pal Feb 8, 2011 3:04 AM
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What happens when you heat water at normal atmospheric pressure?
Sir,
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johnzactruba Feb 5, 2011 8:17 PM
reply john mboozi
The exact configuration of the plant especially the boiler will depend on the type and avaliabilty of the coal, how the cooling water requirment is going to be met etc. There are many details required to even make a preliminary assessment.
john mboozi Feb 4, 2011 7:23 AM
best technology on thermal power plant
kindly help me the best technology to use on putting the thermal power plant using coal to avoid the adverse of pollution. Am in Zambia and we want the plant to produce 600megawatts
Girish Prasad Jan 26, 2011 12:10 PM
supercritical boilers
Difference between supercritical & ultra critical power plant
kannanmettur Jan 14, 2011 8:53 AM
supercritical boiler
sir,
How the pressure can be varied in SC Boilers. At lower load the super critical boilers act as a subcritical boiler. When the TG output is to be reduced, the boiler pressure is correspondingly reduced. This fall in pressure leads to the formation of steam bubbles in the water circuit, impairing the circulation. How it is managed in the SC boiler design. Is there any circulation pump for SC boilers during the low load operation.please explain in detail.
Atman Nov 25, 2010 10:29 PM
TMCR
Dear John,
Can you tell what is Turbine maximum continuous rating and how it is measured???
harshpal Singh Nov 16, 2010 11:25 PM
How to Valdate Reported GCV
Sir,

Thanks for the reply, Can you suggest some method / formula with which we can calculate the approx GCV of Coal being fed. Whether the emprical formula of Ash + Moisture valid for calculating GCV of a blend of coal from different sources.
johnzactruba Nov 16, 2010 7:45 PM
reply Harshpal Singh
Theoritically yes. Practically the errrors are too many.
From MW output to heat input conversion requires the efficiency of the plant. There are so many variables .
The measured coal flow rate itself is a varying quantity . Conversion from Heat input to GCV will require the use of this coal flow. The nett result can be very wrong. But as a quick calculation , yes we can use the method.
Harshpal Singh Nov 15, 2010 6:02 AM
Gross Heat Rate and GCV
Can we use the Gross Heat Rate parameter along with the values of Units Generated and Coal fired to arrive at the GCV of the Coal fed. The idea here is to validate the GCV being reported.
BHAWEWSH PATHAK Oct 31, 2010 5:58 AM
HEAT RATE
SIR,
I would like to know that, HEAT RATE OF SUPER CRITICAL GRETER THAN ULTRA SUPER CRITICAL POWER PLANT .
kannan Oct 10, 2010 9:09 PM
sliding pressure operation
sir,
How the pressure can be varied in SC Boilers. At lower load the super critical boilers act as a subcritical boiler. When the TG output is to be reduced, the boiler pressure is correspondingly reduced. This fall in pressure leads to the formation of steam bubbles in the water circuit, impairing the circulation. How it is managed in the SC boiler design. Is there any circulation pump for SC boilers during the low load operation.please explain in detail.
johnzactruba Oct 9, 2010 9:56 PM
reply kannan
In constant pressure mode the boiler out pressure is maintained at constant value. The turbine throttle pressure is varied to change the flow in the turbine.
In sliding pressure mode the boiler pressure varies to changes in turbine load. Turbine throttle valve is kept always full open.
Both can be operated as sliding pressure modes with specific design criteria.
kannan Oct 9, 2010 8:02 AM
sliding pressure operation in supercritical boilers
sir,
what is sliding pressure operation? can we have this operation on both sub-critical and super critical boilers. If not, in which case it is not possible and how? kindly clarify

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kannan
johnzactruba Sep 16, 2010 4:27 AM
reply Hadi
Since there is already an oil film between th running shaft and the beraing surface
additional oil from the jacking pump may not have any effect. However pls check for any interlocks.
Hadi Sep 15, 2010 5:31 PM
jacking pump
Dear john,
we have a Fuji steam turbine in a CC plant, my question is how to make a test to insure that jacking pump is working properly? and if we turned it on while steam turbine is under normal operation,is valid or not?
johnzactruba Aug 11, 2010 9:43 AM
reply Sandeep C Chandole
Super critical thermal power plant operates at a pressure greater than 220.6 bar pressure. A coal fired thermal power plant operating at this pressure is called a Supercritical Coal fired Thermal power plant.
Sandeep C Chandole Aug 10, 2010 7:47 AM
What is Super critical coal based thermal power plants?
plz give me answer as early as possible.

thanks&regards,

sandeep c
Anna Ashmore Jul 8, 2010 12:53 PM
What is a Supercritical Power Plant?
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BALA Jun 28, 2010 1:32 AM
water walls
Dear sir
I feel square tubes better than round tubes in boiler water walls
Is there any reason for placing round tubes
Thanks & Regards
BALA
S.A.Saraiya Jun 10, 2010 2:49 AM
Cold Start Procedure SC Power Plant
Sir,
I would like to know the start up procedure of Supper Crtical Power Plant with resepect to sub crtical power plant.
Thanks and Regards,
S.A.Saraiya
Lalit Khanna May 21, 2010 3:06 AM
Steam Blowing
Dear SIr,

I am Lalit Khanna, workng as Piping Engineer from past 4 years. I liked your topic on steam blowing as it is highly useful for me.
I want to know about, that how the pipe sizing and other calculations of temporary lines are done for steam blow out. Any software is used for that?
Although i just completed with layout and analysis of temporary lines but doesn't awaire of calculations of sizing etc.

Thanking you
Lalit Khanna
Muhammad Aijaz umer May 17, 2010 3:58 AM
Low NOX burner for HFO fired boiler
I need to know that whehter it is possible to achieve NOX emission level as per IFC limit of 400 mg/N cubic meter for NDA for a 660 MW subcritical boiler.
Kindly let me know the manfacturer name of Low NOX burner, you have such experience that this limit of NOX can be achieable through Low Nox burner for such a boiler
Muhammad Aijaz umer May 17, 2010 3:51 AM
Price of FGD including sea water pumps for sea water treatment plant,all associated pipings , valves etc
Could you please tell me the estimated price of sea water FGD with 97 % removal efficiency including all realted auxiliaries , piping, valves and GGH for a 660 MW subcritical boiler.If I eliminate GGH what will be cost saving.
Also i want an estimated price of Boiler feed water pump with 200 bar discharge pressure and about 2000t/h feed water flow.
M L Sah May 11, 2010 6:02 AM
Selection of super critical boilers
Please advise whether in Indian context it is considered technically wise to go for chinese super critical boilers v/s BHEL or other reputed make from other manufacturers in the world
M L Sah May 11, 2010 6:00 AM
Super critical boiler erection
could you please provide me with erection porocedure for a 660MW super critical boiler erection
Aanand Sharma May 4, 2010 6:39 AM
Comparision with fluid of higher critical temperature
Instead of water, if we have a working fluid of higher critical temperature, we can use the boiler of same material at higher temperature. What is the reason behind this? I would be glad to know the reason.......
NITIN P KUMARE Apr 9, 2010 5:51 AM
standard erection procedure for 660 mw boiler
sir tell me erection procedure for typical 660mw supercritical boiler and above
johnzactruba Apr 3, 2010 9:27 AM
reply Muhammad Aijaz Umer
Most of the new large capacity power plants 800 -1000 MW is coming up with super-critical technology. This is true even in China which has the largest no. of thermal power plants in the world.
There is always a kind of interplay between economics, business and technology . That is why some of the new plants are still using sub-critical technology.
Muhammad Aijaz Umer Apr 3, 2010 8:37 AM
CO2 reduction advantage in Supercritical technology
As we know that the Thermal efficiency of Supercritical tecnology is higher as compared to subcritical technology but we need to improve the metallurgy of boiler, turbine and associated auxiliaries which means cost will increase but we can can mitigate this increase of cost by saving the fuel cost and less cost will be incurred in size of FGD and ECP and for NOX control,now the question is why not newly built modren steam power plant are adopting supercritical technology, while we know that it will also reduce CO2 emmision
johnzactruba Mar 7, 2010 5:55 PM
Pranab Jyoti Ghosh
The pressure in the SH
If the rated outlet pressure of the Super-heater is 170 bar , the pressure drop in the superheater coils is around 12 bar. So the pressure in the Superhetaers vary from 158 bar to 170 bar. This atypical example and can vary from unit to unit based on the configuration , capacity etc.
johnzactruba Mar 7, 2010 5:48 PM
reply ashok goswami
very simply put this spiral tubes provides the water a longer path to absorb more heat.
Ing. Manuel Oleta Mar 7, 2010 3:56 PM
Super and Ultra Super Critical
Hi, i am new on Energy Generation, i am in Mexico, but it seems to be the future, i see a lot of articles, including Double Compund tubines, with Double Reaheted Steam. Do you have more info, may be for studing on deep about Ultra and super Critic.

Regards.
Pranab Jyoti Ghosh Mar 6, 2010 8:51 AM
John, kindly make it a little more clear
John,
You haven't mentioned the pressure of steam inside the superheater in your answer. Kindly please inform me about the pressure and temp of steam in the superheater.
ashok goswami Mar 5, 2010 3:09 AM
for super critical boiler
Why use spiral water wall tubes in supercritical boiler?
Gurpreet sandhu Feb 28, 2010 11:49 AM
RIFILED TUBES
dear Manraj,
After reading the excellent explanation of Sh Johnzactruba
& your next query regarding subject cited topic i came to conclusion that these types of tubes are used in furnaces which have high heat transfer rates as the sizes of such types of furnaces are made smaller in order to save material cost (usually in China boilers eg By Shangai electric Co) & it has nothing to do with type of boiler (i.e Super critical/sub critical)
shrey goel Feb 23, 2010 12:23 PM
material used in sub critical n super critical boliers water walls tubes..??
i want to knowboiler's section classified according to operatin condition..like temp ,pressure at joints n bents etc..?material req to meet respective conditions??and behaviour of material under operating conditions??
i also want to know which material is added n why??wats d reason behind addin this perticular material??..plz tell my ques in detail for both sub critical n super critical technology boilers?
johnzactruba Feb 20, 2010 7:35 PM
reply Pranab Jyoti Ghosh
Water enters the Economiser at 320 deg C and 190 bar, starts boiling in the water walls at 375 deg c and 184 bar, Then in the superheaters it is heated from 375 deg C to 540 deg C in various stages. The steam then goes to HP steam turbine at pressure of . The steam then returns to the boiler at 340 deg C and 44 bar and gets reheated to 540 deg C and then goes to the IP and LP turbine at 42 bar.
This for typical 500 Mw power palnt.
Pranab Jyoti Ghosh Feb 18, 2010 9:20 AM
Temp and pressure difference in Boiler and superheater
I want to know pressure and temperature in the Boiler and in the superheater of a conventional thermal power plant.
johnzactruba Feb 18, 2010 8:40 AM
reply Muhammad Aijaz umer
The cost of a Super critical plant maybe only 2 % more than subcitical, this include cost savings due to smaller flue gas treatments systems.
Muhammad Aijaz umer Feb 17, 2010 1:42 AM
Cost of supercritical technology for power generation as compared to subcritical technology
I am convinced with the supercritcal power generation technology as emmission level specially Cabon dioxide, SOX, NOX and particulate emmission will reduce and is a great benifit for enviroment. This has been achieved due to higher thermal efficiency. It is evident that as we increase pressure and temperature of steam we have to imprive the metallurgy.
Can you please tell me what will be increase in cost per MW if we go to Supercritical tacnology
Maniraj Feb 8, 2010 3:57 AM
Rifiled Tubes
SIr,

But in our running power plant of 135 MW sub critical boiler no rifiled tubes are provided.

And of my my experence in boilers upto 100 MW there also bno rifile tubes supplied in water walls.
What is the reason behind it.

I came to knoe from articles that only mordern supercritical boilers are supplied with rifiled tubes.
But now a days chines boiler makers are giving rifiled tubes for sub critical units why?
johnzactruba Feb 7, 2010 11:24 PM
reply Anil kumar
It is related to the internal energy of the molecules.
The water molecules require certain kinetic energy to break its bonds to come out of the water phase.
Imagine a spring applying a force on a surface. similarly at higher pressures the energy required by the molecules to get out is more. Temperature is the level of internal energy. So the boiling temperature is higher at higher pressure.
Latent heat is again the energy required for all the molecules to escape the water phase. At higher pressure since the internal energy is already high, the molecules free themselves faster. This is why the latent heat is high.
johnzactruba Feb 7, 2010 7:48 PM
reply maniraj
In a boiler water wall tube the steam starts forming on the walls of the tube.
When high heat transfer rates takes place, the steam forms a film on the inside of the waterwall tubes. This is dangerous and can lead to overheating failure. To avoid this the inside of the tubes are rifled
, there are continuous spiral grooves inside the tubes. This helps in mixing the steam bubbles formed on the walls with water inside. This makes it possible to have high heat transfer rates and consequentially lower furnace sizes.
Maniraj Feb 5, 2010 11:03 PM
RE: What is a Supercritical Power Plant?
In our plant in the newly erected 300 MW sub critical boiler the water wall tubes are supplied with rifiled tube instead of normal plain tubes (inside rifile). What is the reason behind this? Explain. ( Boiler main stem pressure 165 bar and temp 540 degree centigrade)
Anil kumar Feb 5, 2010 11:58 AM
RE: What is a Supercritical Power Plant?
why does saturation temperature of water increase when pressure increases and why latent heat of vapourisation decreases.

thanks
johnzactruba Feb 5, 2010 7:45 AM
reply maniraj
The feed water pressure will be 257 bar plus the pressure drop - around 20 bar.
The water to steam conversion takes place in the water wall.
johnzactruba Feb 5, 2010 7:44 AM
reply maniraj
The feed water pressure will be 257 bar plus the pressure drop - around 20 bar.
The water to steam conversion takes place in the water wall.
Maniraj Feb 5, 2010 5:06 AM
RE: What is a Supercritical Power Plant?
In super critical boiler what will be the feed water inlet pressure and temperature? (Eg Main steam outlet temperature ane pressure in the range of 570 degree centigrade and 257 bar) At where does the water changes to steam phase in economiser or in water wall?
johnzactruba Jan 16, 2010 4:29 AM
reply kartawan muchtar
In super critical the oerating pressure is greater than 220.6 bar. Normal boilers operate at pressures less than this.
The pressure basically increases due to the volumetric change from water to steam. The pump is required in all boilers to feed water to the boiler, since the steam produced goes out of the boiler. since the boiler is under pressure, the pump has to deliver water at pressure higher than that of steam.
johnzactruba Jan 16, 2010 4:21 AM
reply MUTHALI
Any liquid to change from its liquid state to gaseous state require some kind of additional energy. The liquid boils to form the vapour. At this point even though heat addition takes place the temperature remains the same. The molecules absorb the heat to break away from each other. This heat is latent Heat.
As the pressure increases the latent heat required is less. At the critical pressure when the water reaches the boiling point it instantly vaporizes. This is more of function of the internal energy that binds together the molecules.
kartawan muchtar Jan 15, 2010 8:27 PM
boiler technology for supercritical
what is the difference of boiler technology between conventional subcritical and supercritical steam power plant ?. do we need high pressure boiler feed pump to increase steam pressure or the pressure of steam will automatically increase as heated by energy coming from coal burnt?.
MUTHALI Jan 3, 2010 6:03 PM
BOILER
what is Latent Heat of Vapourisation(LHV)? In supercritical technology at critical point(221.6 bar/373 deg C) how this LHV is ZERO?
Pranab Jyoti Ghosh Dec 10, 2009 11:17 AM
What will happen, when vapor will be produced by vacuum evaporation and in the next steop it will be heated in a Boiler
Just think of the matter. when water is evaporated inside and enclosed metallic container with the help from a vacuum pump, the water collects its latent heat of evaporation from the rest of the water and that cools in the process. But, heat will enter into that cooled water through the walls of the container by conduction method and thus the latent heat of evaporation of water will be collected from atmosphere. If, in the next phase, that water will be heated by burning fossil fuel in a Boiler, less fossil fuel will be needed. But, how that can be possible.
johnzactruba Nov 24, 2009 12:45 AM
V.Srinivasan
As the steam pressure increases the cycle efficiency also increases whereby reducing the the steam require to produce one unit of electrical output. Steam temperature is also another factor. There are other factors like reheat, extraction etc that also effect the generation ratio.
So its difficult to get a thumb rule only for pressure.
V.Srinivasan Nov 8, 2009 10:41 PM
Thermal power plant efficiency at low pressure
We wish to know, whether there is any thumb rule for steam pressure vs generation ratio of steam turbine.
johnzactruba Nov 7, 2009 11:19 PM
reply - ak.hboiler
Natural circulation takes place becuse of the density difference between the water and the hotter water steam mix in the furnace side. In largrer units this requires a much larger furnace. To increase the circulation a pump is normally used in such case. Even though the pump uses extra power , the reduced furnace size compensates for this.
Larger units invariably go for controlled circulation.
ak.h Nov 3, 2009 11:24 AM
boiler
what is advantages of both forced and natural circulation boiler and which is preffard
johnzactruba Nov 1, 2009 9:16 PM
reply -Balvindra Singh
For getting a detailed data and technology you should contact the manufacturers because many information are propritery.
In India you can contact BHEl - Trichy- Proposals Division.
johnzactruba Nov 1, 2009 9:14 PM
reply- ak sayed-boiler efficiency -hp heaters
The hp & Lp heaters extract steam from various stages in the steam turbine and heat the water enterring the boiler. The latent heat of condenstaion for this qty of steam is utilised to heat the water instead of instead of rejecting in the condenser.
This improves the steam cycle efficency. There is an optimum amount of extraction, if more the effciency will reduce.
johnzactruba Nov 1, 2009 9:09 PM
reply - AK.SAYED-boiler efficiency
ak sayed Nov 1, 2009 1:58 PM
boiler efficiency
what is effect of working without high pressure feed water heaters on boiler efficiency and how can improve efficiency in this case
Balvindra Singh Jodha Oct 27, 2009 2:54 AM
Regarding 650 MWe Supercrtical Power Plant Technical Specifications
Dear John, Kindly provide the technogy and specifications for 650 MWe Supercrtical Power Plant
ak sayed Oct 26, 2009 9:16 AM
boiler
what is harmful of low & high pressure fuel in boiler
AK.SAYED Oct 26, 2009 8:59 AM
boiler efficiency
HOW CAN CALCULATE BOILER EFFICIENCY
johnzactruba Oct 1, 2009 9:18 PM
reply: Kim
Thanks Kim.
Your appreciation is what keeps us going.

John Zac
kim johnson Oct 1, 2009 5:07 AM
Sub-critical & supercritical
Thankyou for your good explanation from downunder in Australia
A.K SAYED Sep 26, 2009 2:39 PM
supercritical boiler
how can protect boiler from overheating
A.K SAYED Sep 26, 2009 1:56 PM
supercritical boiler
How can see water level and protect boiler from over heating , how can boiler work whith out drum
Y.V.T.Achary Sep 21, 2009 7:07 AM
Sub-critical & supercritical
Very well explained,
thanks
johnzactruba Sep 16, 2009 5:30 PM
Re:Pressure Tepmerature Combination
Of course higher pressure and temperature is always better.
Between 64 and 84 bar 84 is beneficial. But all your piping and equipment have to be designed for this higher pressure. This is costlier. Only a return on investment calculations can tell the benefits.
If you see the history of steam production in sugar plant in India in the early days they used steam at 16 bar. This necessiated additional fuel supply to meet the regular season demand for steam generation. But to day with 60 bar and higher systems sugar plants have excess fuel to spare or can produce electricity to feed to the grid.
R THIRUGNANASAMBANDAR, AEE/CIVIL,/TNEB/ TAMILNADU. Sep 16, 2009 12:27 PM
AREA(LENGTH & BREADTH) REQIREMENT
WHAT WILL BE THE MINIMUM AREA (LENGTH & BREADTH) REQIREMENT FOR POWER BLOCK OF SUB CRITICAL THERMAL POWER STATION AND THE SUPER CRITICAL THERMAL POWER STATION ?. WHAT WILL BE MAJOR DIFFERENCE IN BETWEEN THE ABOVE TWO IN VIEW OF AREA REQIREMENT FOR POWER BLOCK?
Prashant U Jagtap Sep 11, 2009 1:19 AM
Pressure Tepmerature Combination
In Bagasse (by product of Sugar cane) fired boiler it is very difficult to achieve average steam temperature above 540 Deg. C. I want to know, between below mentioned Pressure - Tepmerature Combination which is benificial, as far as power generation, power consumption of the system and cost of the system is concern.

Pressure Temp.
64 bara 520 Deg C
84 bara 520 Deg. C

Please suggest the same.
johnzactruba Sep 5, 2009 7:31 PM
re:raj kishore sharma
Indian power generation mix is basically coal ired thermal power plants. To get the best efficiency for coal fired thermal power plants, the current technolgy is to go in for Super critical power plants are the answer.
Worlds largest thermal power producer China has already adopted this. Today they plan only for Supercritical 600 MW and above units. LOwer capacities are being phased out. So this is the very relevant technology for India.
In line with this BHEL is alreay making 800 MW supercritical units.
raj kishore sharma Sep 5, 2009 2:16 PM
RE: What is a Supercritical Power Plant?
why not sub critical technology for an under developed country like India?
raj kishore sharma Sep 5, 2009 2:13 PM
sub-critical v/s supercritical power plants
in the present power scenerio of india ,is it advisable to go for super critical power plants of 660MW units? When lots of difficulties are being felt in getting boilers and turbines of this capacity.
BHEL do not have this tecnology till now.
A.K.SRINIVASAN Aug 25, 2009 6:07 AM
SUPERCRITICAL BOILERS
Brief notes about supercritical boilers and its Parts with necessary dimensions for 800MW.
 
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