Can A Motor Be Run On Lower/Higher Than Rated Frequency?

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Updated Aug 25, 2009

We all know about the supply frequency which is essential for any electrical machinery. But can you run a motor rated for 50 Hz on a 60 Hz supply, or vice versa? Read here to know the in-depth analysis of the above conditions.

Introduction

The basic expression relating the speed of an induction motor and its frequency is N = 120f/P. From this expression, many facts can be derived and understood. And this expression is also helpful in understanding starting and full load torques of an induction motor. In this article, let us explore in-depth, of what happens to an induction motor if the supply frequency and supply voltage is varied.

Effect of Change in Supply Voltage on Torque and Speed

As already discussed in my article on speed control of induction motors, it is evident that the torque (T) of an induction motor is directly proportional to the square of the supply voltage. During starting, the supply voltage is kept to minimum, so that the torque is also minimum. When the supply voltage is gradually increased, the torque increases following the relation:

T α s * V^2.

Where T = torque,

s = slip and

V = the supply voltage.

So it is evident from the above equation that the torque at any speed is proportional to the square of the applied voltage. If the stator voltage is decreased by 10%, then the torque decreases by 20%. This decrease in torque, due to decrease in supply voltage will not only happen during starting of the motor, but also during running conditions. It should be appreciated that when the supply voltage V decreases, then the torque T also decreases. But there is a load connected to the motor and it requires a constant torque all the time. Thus in order to maintain a constant torque during reduced supply voltage, as a compensation, the speed of the motor decreases.

It should be understood by referring to the torque equation, “T α s * V^2”, as the supply voltage is reduced, the slip increases to maintain a constant torque. As the slip increases the speed of the motor reduces.

Effect of Change in Supply Frequency on Torque and Speed

The change in supply frequency hardly occurs in large distribution systems used on land. If there are some major disturbances or very heavy load fluctuating continuously, then there might be a minimal frequency variation. But large frequency variations are possible on electrical systems used on board ships and emergency supply systems for factories and hospitals. Such large frequency variations are possible on low power systems where diesel engines and gas turbines are used as prime movers.

As already mentioned, the relation between the speed of the motor and its frequency is given by the expression N = 120f/P.

From this expression, it is evident that the speed of the motor is directly proportional to the supply frequency. Thus any decrease or increase in frequency will affect the speed of the motor. Let us now analyze what exactly happens when a motor of 50Hz made to run with 60Hz supply and vice-versa.

Analysis 1:

When a 50 Hz motor is made to run on 60 Hz supply:

It is general practice in several countries to have all house-hold items and equipments rated for 50 Hz supply. So when such small domestic devices are connected to a 60 Hz supply, they cause a severe problem. For better understanding, let us visualize this small calculation:

[(60Hz – 50 Hz)/ 50 Hz] * 100 = 20 %. Thus all such equipments run 20 % faster than their normal rated speed. This is not safe for the equipment as the insulations may be rated for lesser capacity and windings may burn-out. To run safely, we either require a reduction gear or an expensive 50 Hz source.

Also this 50 Hz motor will operate perfectly on a 60 Hz supply provided its supply voltage is stepped-up.

60 Hz/ 50 Hz = 6/5 * 100 = 120 %.

Analysis 2:

60 Hz motor connected to 50 Hz supply:

It is same as the above, but instead of stepping-up the supply voltage, it is necessary to step-down the supply voltage.

50Hz/ 60 Hz = 5/6 * 100 = 80 %.


Comments

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Bismark Anane Aug 5, 2011 6:21 PM
Can I run my 60hz machine on 50hz ac supply?
I have a US manufaactured embroidery machine which is rated 60hz 110V I want to know if I can run it on 50hz 240V with 240V/110V stepdown transformer?
Mohit Parikh Jun 1, 2011 6:07 AM
5o Hz motor on 60 Hz
hello sir,

I want to run 230 V,50 Hz ,1.5 T window type air conditioner with supply of 110 V,60 Hz supply.what will happened if I simply use step up transformer 110/230 v.Is it advisable or not ?
Mohit Parikh
lashari Mar 26, 2011 10:33 AM
motor frequency
The speed of motor depends on frequency and its speed would be less than its rated speed at rated frequency.
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lashari Mar 26, 2011 10:13 AM
Electricity
reply to Mr.Chopheap.
Dc motor are categorized in many types. according to construction and according to connection. according to construction two types squirrel cage type and wound type and according to connection series type shunt type and combined type.
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Fagath ahamed Jan 4, 2011 2:24 AM
What is the formula for rewinding of 220/380 Voltage to 220/480 Voltage Conversion?
dear sir i have a 3 phase motor 75kw 60 220/380 Voltage and now i need to rewind the 220/480 Voltage please send the formula for rewind .
gopi Nov 26, 2010 6:53 AM
60hz to 50 hz re winding
I brought ice cream machine which is 60hz , but I could not use in india, is it possible to rewind the machine according to Indian electrical ,if is yes please let me know where i can get service in chennai or any where in india,

Alos let us know , there is a electronic board (operation board with switches ) to operate the machine after we change the winding for motor alone ,will it be any problem for electronics board will even work in 50hz with out converting hz
Please reply ,its very urgent

Thank you

Gopi
sriram balu Nov 18, 2010 5:06 AM
@ Pramod
Hi Mr.Pramod,

A motor rated for 460V, 60 Hz, can be run at 50 Hz.
There is no problem with the frequency reduced. But it is recommended to operate at as less voltage as possible. I mean theoretically, the ideal voltage would be 380 V. However practically, when you measure the voltage available at the terminals to motor, I don;t think you get more than 400 or 410 Volts in India. However do check it. Also do state that whether the motor is classed for continuous rating and insulation class. But when you operate at reduced frequency and reduced voltage, as a thumb rule, you cannot expect the same work output of the motor. Like when it is pumping 4 bar pressure, you cannot expect the same performance when you operate so.
Thank you
Pramod Nov 16, 2010 5:19 AM
Effect of 415Volt, 50 Hz 3 phase Motor instead of 460V,60Hz.
Hi,

I am using a US manufactured 3 phase Dayton 460V, 60Hz motor india.

But Problem is in india both 460V and 60Hz supply is not available,so i am using 415 V ,50Hz supply.

My query is that, i read your document effect of frequency on motor toque and speed in that it is mentioned as if i reduce the supply frequency by 20% i.e from 60Hz to 50Hz, in the same time i need to reduce the supply by 20% i.e to 375-380V to work properly.

But the problem in my case is i am reducing the frequency by 20% i.e from 60 Hz to 50 Hz and Supply voltage by 10% i.e (460V to 415V).

Could you please tell me whether my motor works properly or not in this system?

Regards
Pramod.
Tenkei Oct 25, 2010 9:51 PM
Motors and frequency
Chris K
Most of the time you *don't* need a special "VFD" rated motor (check out Baldor, for example), you just have to be careful not to overheat due to the motor's cooling fan also spinning too slowly.

He's also correct about decreasing V with f (as impedance will also decrease almost linearly with f).

Where his advice might be problematic is using a 50Hz motor on a 60Hz utility. Unless you know for sure that the insulation is rated for the higher voltage, you can't safely increase the voltage. You could use it at the 100% voltage, and have a drop in available torque.

With a VFD, they generally increase voltage until they get to 60 Hz, then go from a constant torque to a constant HP regime. As the motor speeds up, it's torque will drop accordingly.
javed Sep 4, 2010 11:22 AM
whate is the formula for rewinding of 50 Hz motor to 60 Hz
dear sir i have a 3 phase motor 75kw 50 Hz and now i need to rewind the 60 Hz please send the formula for rewind to new Hz
Nitin Maheshwari Jun 15, 2010 6:02 PM
using 50 hz moter on 60 hz ac power
can i use 3 phase 50 hz,440 v,15hp induction moter on 60 hz power supply ?
i can change the 60 hz supply voltage.
if i can use it than what is the supply voltage of 60 hz power supply when i want to use this moter on same power rating?
Jawad Bashir May 18, 2010 4:09 PM
Very Nice Article - Good Explanation
Thanks Sriram, this was a very informative and helpful article.

Jawad Bashir
Chopheap Apr 21, 2010 10:59 AM
Electricity
My name is pheap. I have two question to ask you.
How many type of DC Motor? and How many type of AC Motor? Thanks you. and hope you send me back soon.
vrakas Mar 4, 2010 3:27 PM
Motor frequncy
The motor will run on lower rpm, however you must check the voltage efects
sunil sharma Jan 30, 2010 8:54 AM
frequency differance
Can we oparete the system that is designed for 60 heartz frequency on 50 heartz frequency?
wowme Jan 28, 2010 3:54 AM
RE: Can A Motor Be Run On Lower/Higher Than Rated Frequency?
If I have a 6v Dc motor with a working torque of 150mNm and load speed of 40rpm,
Is it possible that via a suitable speed controller I could instead use say 7.4v 1000mAh and be able to increase the speed of the motor? if it started with a load at 40 rpm and you increase the speed slowly say to 180rpm surely it will still be lifting the weight?
hatoooma Jan 5, 2010 1:14 AM
slip ring motor
if we shunt the rotor of the slip ring motor and resistant discnnected , the slip ring mtor can run as squirrelcage motor.
hatoooma Jan 4, 2010 7:21 AM
slip ring motor
if we shunt the rotor and unbluged rsistant for slip ring motor ,it will be run as induction motor?
Chris K Dec 20, 2009 9:55 AM
Can A Motor Be Run On Lower/Higher Than Rated Frequency?
"sriram balu".... Either your WRONG...Or you forgot to mention VFD(variable frequency drives) There are induction motors specifically designed for this purpose. I've seen and installed VFD's for many units to include large AHU's. The motors vary from say " X "HZ to about 1000HZ from what i've seen. I'm sure theres all different kinds. These motors usually are identified by large cooloing fins on them and differnt insulation ratings of internal components such as motor windings, wires, etc. being that they run much hotter than if they were operating at "AMERICA'a standard 60HZ" which you forgot to mention. The VFD Panel controls this process.
And to answer "KARTHICK" the motor will drag depending on the load, start-up, run, etc. of the system....check all equipment nameplates on units as well as the VFD control panel, and if you still can't figure out this process for you specific application, stay off these web sites and consult the equipment manufacturer for each unit in the entire system(MOTOR, VFD, Main unit for hook-up manufacturer) Ive been in the electrical field for many years and that is the only way and it is your job to do so. Most systems are designed for certain applications, and you as QUALIFIED INSTALLER should ALWAYS consult manufacturer, not a blog post!
Thamir mahmud Dec 7, 2009 1:11 PM
50 and 60 hertz
Dear friend Iam trying to buy electrical moters from the U S A and shipping them to Iraq they are rated 50-100 H P,and as you know in the U S they use 60 hertz 440 volts, in Iraq they ues 50 hertz 380 volts,I was told these moters will run slower and get hot and burn up,is this true.
Thank you
narendran ks Nov 28, 2009 2:30 AM
single phase motor speed control using triac
hi sir,
i have try to control the speed of the single phase ceiling fan.. i used triac.. but i cant vary the speed.. i think the triggering pulse may play a main role... can u pls give me a guide to do this project... how can i control a ceiling fan by using a triac with speed control....
Monesh Sharma Nov 7, 2009 12:12 AM
Slip ring motor vs squirrel cage motor
Dear Sir,
Can you give me any comparison of efficiency between slip ring and squirrel cage induction motor (with VFD)
N1755L Oct 28, 2009 7:20 PM
karthick - 20Hz
karthick,

Maybe someone can confirm this, a regular squirrel-cage induction motor should not be run with a load at less than one sixth of its rated speed. Thus, a 1800 RPM motor should not be run at less than 300 RPM with a load.

So if your motor is going to be turning anything but a very light load, then look at your motor's rated RPM, and set the VFD (frequency drive) so that it will not be able bring the motor speed to less than one sixth of the motor's rated RPM (a 3600 RPM motor should not be run at lower than 600 RPM).
karthick Oct 21, 2009 10:33 AM
motor frequency
if i run the motor in 20hz through variable frequency drive what will happen motor will get affect or not.
karthick Oct 21, 2009 10:30 AM
UPS
Hello sir i am a beginner for electrical maintenance field what are the trouble shootings for UPS,transformers.Mostly i need calculations for ups how to calculate the battery capacities and quantitys for ups.send me some important calculations for my related job.
min min Sep 6, 2009 5:40 AM
may i want to know about generator and power distribution system and charging system of battery
hello sir
when the generator is black out what parts i should check
 
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